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[I] Doctor Casting [message #257494] So, 16 April 2006 05:58
Puck  
I just watched the new episode of Doctor Who while reading Lords and Ladies
during the commercial breaks, and am now obsessed with finding a fantasy
Discworld role for both David Tennant and Billie Piper. Any suggestions?

I thought Tennant might make a good Verence. Too bad Piper is probably too
attractive to play Magrat. Maybe she could be Susan if she lost the cherubic
smile.

--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night", indeed!
"I am that giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and
limb, more like."
-Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257499 ] So, 16 April 2006 09:30
Fat Harris  
Puck wrote:
> I just watched the new episode of Doctor Who while reading Lords and Ladies
> during the commercial breaks, and am now obsessed with finding a fantasy
> Discworld role for both David Tennant and Billie Piper. Any suggestions?
>
> I thought Tennant might make a good Verence. Too bad Piper is probably too
> attractive to play Magrat. Maybe she could be Susan if she lost the cherubic
> smile.
>


He would make an excellent Moist Von Lipwig, I would say. But that's
just me.
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257505 ] So, 16 April 2006 09:24
Eric Jarvis  
Puck Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu wrote in <e1sfhg$igk$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>:
> I just watched the new episode of Doctor Who while reading Lords and Ladies
> during the commercial breaks, and am now obsessed with finding a fantasy
> Discworld role for both David Tennant and Billie Piper. Any suggestions?
>
> I thought Tennant might make a good Verence. Too bad Piper is probably too
> attractive to play Magrat. Maybe she could be Susan if she lost the cherubic
> smile.
>

I'm impressed with her performances as Rose. She started off well and is
now showing the signs of becoming a superb actress. I think she could
handle Magrat if Jane Horrocks wasn't available.

Provided David Tennant can sing he might make a great Imp Y Celyn.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257537 ] So, 16 April 2006 13:05
Puck  
Fat Harris wrote:
> He would make an excellent Moist Von Lipwig, I would say. But that's
> just me.

I agree, that would be a great role for him.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257747 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 03:34
John Duncan Yoyo  
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 07:05:02 -0400, "Puck" <Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu> wrote:

>Fat Harris wrote:
>> He would make an excellent Moist Von Lipwig, I would say. But that's
>> just me.
>
>I agree, that would be a great role for him.

Has Eccleston found a DW casting yet? They just ran Dalek over here
and it blew my socks off.
--
John Duncan Yoyo
------------------------------o)
Brought to you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee.
Coruscant is far, far away from wesa on Naboo.
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257749 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 04:05
Puck  
John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
> Has Eccleston found a DW casting yet? They just ran Dalek over here
> and it blew my socks off.

Eccleston could be Dibbler. I always figured Dibbler sounded a bit like
that.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257750 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 04:08
Puck  
Puck wrote:
> John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
>> Has Eccleston found a DW casting yet? They just ran Dalek over here
>> and it blew my socks off.
>
> Eccleston could be Dibbler. I always figured Dibbler sounded a bit
> like that.

Incidentally, I heard that Eccleston may be on the list of actors being
considerred for The Joker in the sequel to Batman Begins. Anyone know if
there's any truth to this? It would certainly be interesting.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257754 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 05:07
pjamison2  
"Puck" <Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
news:e1ute2$91c$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> Puck wrote:
>> John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
>>> Has Eccleston found a DW casting yet? They just ran Dalek over here
>>> and it blew my socks off.
>>
>> Eccleston could be Dibbler. I always figured Dibbler sounded a bit
>> like that.
>
> Incidentally, I heard that Eccleston may be on the list of actors being
> considerred for The Joker in the sequel to Batman Begins. Anyone know if
> there's any truth to this? It would certainly be interesting.


Indeed. I think the facial structure might work. It depends on how well he
can play psychotic.

(or rather giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and
limb, as your sig puts it so well)

--

Paul E. Jamison

"I traveled to a planet with no bilateral symmetry
and all I got was this lousy F-shirt."
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257763 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 07:37
Puck  
pjamison2 wrote:
>> Incidentally, I heard that Eccleston may be on the list of actors
>> being considerred for The Joker in the sequel to Batman Begins.
>> Anyone know if there's any truth to this? It would certainly be
>> interesting.
>
> Indeed. I think the facial structure might work. It depends on how
> well he can play psychotic.
>
> (or rather giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life
> and limb, as your sig puts it so well)

I agree. But if we are going by looks alone, Tennant would make an even
better Joker. He's got the nose, the hair, the right facial shape, and the
right body structure. And he did a pretty good psychotic in the 4th Harry
Potter film (although he has very little screen time).
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257775 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 09:08
Eric Jarvis  
Puck Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu wrote in <e1ut8n$90g$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>:
> John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
> > Has Eccleston found a DW casting yet? They just ran Dalek over here
> > and it blew my socks off.
>
> Eccleston could be Dibbler. I always figured Dibbler sounded a bit like
> that.
>

Remember that Chris Eccleston is a classically trained actor (Webber
Douglas Drama School IIRC, and you don't get more classical the WD, or
better voice training) so he can sound an awful lot posher than that if he
wants.

I'd see him as a potential Carrot, or maybe Brutha. He might even make a
good job of Teatime.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"the alternative to seeing things in black and white
is to see them in full colour"
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257797 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 12:05
Puck  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> Remember that Chris Eccleston is a classically trained actor (Webber
> Douglas Drama School IIRC, and you don't get more classical the WD, or
> better voice training) so he can sound an awful lot posher than that
> if he wants.

True. I'd really need to see him in more roles. But I think his Doctor
accent would fit in well in Discworld: "Lots of discs have a hub!"

--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257819 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 12:38
Peter Ellis  
Puck wrote:
>
> I agree. But if we are going by looks alone, Tennant would make an
> even better Joker. He's got the nose, the hair, the right facial
> shape, and the right body structure. And he did a pretty good
> psychotic in the 4th Harry Potter film (although he has very little
> screen time).

He did an absolutely *appalling* psychotic. He gurned, hammed and flailed
his tongue around for no apparent reason. However, I suspect that was what
he was told to do. He did at least have the decency to appear slightly
embarrassed by how much he was enjoying it.

Peter
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257822 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 12:44
Peter Ellis  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Puck Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu wrote in <e1ut8n$90g$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>:
>> John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
>>> Has Eccleston found a DW casting yet? They just ran Dalek over here
>>> and it blew my socks off.
>>
>> Eccleston could be Dibbler. I always figured Dibbler sounded a bit
>> like that.
>>
>
> Remember that Chris Eccleston is a classically trained actor (Webber
> Douglas Drama School IIRC, and you don't get more classical the WD, or
> better voice training) so he can sound an awful lot posher than that
> if he wants.
>
> I'd see him as a potential Carrot, or maybe Brutha. He might even
> make a good job of Teatime.

I think Eccles would make an amazing Vimes. He might even manage to carry
off the "I have found my cow" bit without making it as embarassingly awful
as my imagination did (seriously, not the finest idea Terry's ever had IMO).

David Tennant would do very well for Teatime - needs to be young, bright,
chirpy, ever so slightly manic and bloody dangerous. Just make sure he
plays a *real* sociopath rather than a gurner.

Peter
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257829 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 12:53
Torak  
Peter Ellis wrote:
> Puck wrote:
>
>>I agree. But if we are going by looks alone, Tennant would make an
>>even better Joker. He's got the nose, the hair, the right facial
>>shape, and the right body structure. And he did a pretty good
>>psychotic in the 4th Harry Potter film (although he has very little
>>screen time).
>
> He did an absolutely *appalling* psychotic. He gurned, hammed and flailed
> his tongue around for no apparent reason. However, I suspect that was what
> he was told to do. He did at least have the decency to appear slightly
> embarrassed by how much he was enjoying it.

I still think Jack Nicholson's Joker was the best one, closely followed
by Cesar Romero.
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257875 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 14:53
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Torak:

> I still think Jack Nicholson's Joker was the best one,
> closely followed by Cesar Romero.

Mark Hamill is the *only* person to have played the Joker.
Nicholson and Romero played entertaining characters, but they
weren't the Joker (although Romero was closer to the 60s Joker
than Nicholson was to the 80s version).

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Sometimes scientific progress requires personal sacrifice.
Personally, I sacrifice Beaker." -Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257876 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 14:58
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Peter Ellis:

> I think Eccles would make an amazing Vimes. He might even
> manage to carry off the "I have found my cow" bit without
> making it as embarassingly awful as my imagination did
> (seriously, not the finest idea Terry's ever had IMO).

Really? As I've said before I thought it was one of the most
powerful things he's ever written, and it had me laughing and
crying at the same time.

> David Tennant would do very well for Teatime - needs to be
> young, bright, chirpy, ever so slightly manic and bloody
> dangerous. Just make sure he plays a *real* sociopath
> rather than a gurner.

Yeah, I can see that. He'd also make an interesting Rob
Anybody, or maybe I just want him to have a chance to use his
real accent...

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Sometimes scientific progress requires personal sacrifice.
Personally, I sacrifice Beaker." -Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257878 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 15:00
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Puck:

> I just watched the new episode of Doctor Who while reading
> Lords and Ladies during the commercial breaks, and am now
> obsessed with finding a fantasy Discworld role for both
> David Tennant and Billie Piper. Any suggestions?

I've forgotten where you live. Not UK, because the Beeb has no
breaks; not US, because they're still on Ecclestone. Canada?

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Sometimes scientific progress requires personal sacrifice.
Personally, I sacrifice Beaker." -Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257897 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 16:04
Torak  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Also Sprach Torak:
>
>
>>I still think Jack Nicholson's Joker was the best one,
>>closely followed by Cesar Romero.
>
>
> Mark Hamill is the *only* person to have played the Joker.
> Nicholson and Romero played entertaining characters, but they
> weren't the Joker (although Romero was closer to the 60s Joker
> than Nicholson was to the 80s version).

Mark Hamill's a far better villain than hero, IMO. As a hero he's
insipid and boring, but as a villain... Watch "Hamilton" with Peter
Stormare and you'll see what I mean.
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257898 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 16:02
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called JDD0g.3183$B42.1144 [at] dukeread05,
pjamison2 uttered thus:
> "Puck" <Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:e1ute2$91c$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > Puck wrote:
> > > John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
> > > > Has Eccleston found a DW casting yet? They just ran Dalek
> > > > over here and it blew my socks off.
> > >
> > > Eccleston could be Dibbler. I always figured Dibbler sounded a
> > > bit like that.
> >
> > Incidentally, I heard that Eccleston may be on the list of actors
> > being considerred for The Joker in the sequel to Batman Begins.
> > Anyone know if there's any truth to this? It would certainly be
> > interesting.
>
>
> Indeed. I think the facial structure might work. It depends on how
> well he can play psychotic.

Watch "Shallow Grave" and you may find out.


--
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The problem with being in the rat-race is:
Even if you win, you're still a rat.
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257953 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 18:36
John Duncan Yoyo  
On 17 Apr 2006 13:00:16 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
<daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote:

>Also Sprach Puck:
>
>> I just watched the new episode of Doctor Who while reading
>> Lords and Ladies during the commercial breaks, and am now
>> obsessed with finding a fantasy Discworld role for both
>> David Tennant and Billie Piper. Any suggestions?
>
>I've forgotten where you live. Not UK, because the Beeb has no
>breaks; not US, because they're still on Ecclestone. Canada?

It's on SCI-FI in the USA on Friday nights right now.
--
John Duncan Yoyo
------------------------------o)
Brought to you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee.
Coruscant is far, far away from wesa on Naboo.
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257963 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 19:04
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach John Duncan Yoyo:

> On 17 Apr 2006 13:00:16 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
> <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Also Sprach Puck:
>>
>>> I just watched the new episode of Doctor Who while
>>> reading Lords and Ladies during the commercial breaks,
>>> and am now obsessed with finding a fantasy Discworld role
>>> for both David Tennant and Billie Piper. Any suggestions?
>>
>>I've forgotten where you live. Not UK, because the Beeb has
>>no breaks; not US, because they're still on Ecclestone.
>>Canada?
>
> It's on SCI-FI in the USA on Friday nights right now.

Yes, I actually said that in my above post. But not with David
Tennant.

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"Sometimes scientific progress requires personal sacrifice.
Personally, I sacrifice Beaker." -Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257992 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 20:52
Puck  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Also Sprach Torak:
>
>> I still think Jack Nicholson's Joker was the best one,
>> closely followed by Cesar Romero.
>
> Mark Hamill is the *only* person to have played the Joker.
> Nicholson and Romero played entertaining characters, but they
> weren't the Joker (although Romero was closer to the 60s Joker
> than Nicholson was to the 80s version).

I agree Hamill's interpretation was awesome. He is the only person to
succesfully mix the humorous with the truly dangerous. Everyone else has
either played him as a mere homicidal maniac, or a campy clown. He should be
somewhere in between.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257993 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 20:56
Puck  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> I've forgotten where you live. Not UK, because the Beeb has no
> breaks; not US, because they're still on Ecclestone. Canada?

I am in the U.S. One of my UK buddies was kind enough to record the
Christmas Invasion and mail it to me. He plans to do the same once he has a
tape full of the 2006 episodes.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #257995 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 21:01
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Puck:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> I've forgotten where you live. Not UK, because the Beeb
>> has no breaks; not US, because they're still on
>> Ecclestone. Canada?
>
> I am in the U.S. One of my UK buddies was kind enough to
> record the Christmas Invasion and mail it to me. He plans
> to do the same once he has a tape full of the 2006

That makes sense. Except for the bit about reading L&L during
the commericals, 'cos there weren't any...

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: Doctor Casting [message #258039 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 23:04
BriD  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Puck Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu wrote in <e1sfhg$igk$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>:
> > I just watched the new episode of Doctor Who while reading Lords and Ladies
> > during the commercial breaks, and am now obsessed with finding a fantasy
> > Discworld role for both David Tennant and Billie Piper. Any suggestions?
> >
> > I thought Tennant might make a good Verence. Too bad Piper is probably too
> > attractive to play Magrat. Maybe she could be Susan if she lost the cherubic
> > smile.
> >
>
> I'm impressed with her performances as Rose. She started off well and is
> now showing the signs of becoming a superb actress. I think she could
> handle Magrat if Jane Horrocks wasn't available.
>
> Provided David Tennant can sing he might make a great Imp Y Celyn.
>

I agree, he'd be great as Buddy. I also think he'd make a brilliant
Carcer. With Billie as the young Rosie Palm perhaps?

BriD
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258112 ] Di, 18 April 2006 01:03
Puck  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Also Sprach Puck:
>
>> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>>> I've forgotten where you live. Not UK, because the Beeb
>>> has no breaks; not US, because they're still on
>>> Ecclestone. Canada?
>>
>> I am in the U.S. One of my UK buddies was kind enough to
>> record the Christmas Invasion and mail it to me. He plans
>> to do the same once he has a tape full of the 2006
>
> That makes sense. Except for the bit about reading L&L during
> the commericals, 'cos there weren't any...

There were. I sat through them for the simple novelty of hearing commercials
spoken in a British accent. Over here you never hear that unless the
announcer is being pretentious.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258113 ] Di, 18 April 2006 01:10
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Puck:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> Also Sprach Puck:
>>
>>> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>>>> I've forgotten where you live. Not UK, because the Beeb
>>>> has no breaks; not US, because they're still on
>>>> Ecclestone. Canada?
>>>
>>> I am in the U.S. One of my UK buddies was kind enough to
>>> record the Christmas Invasion and mail it to me. He plans
>>> to do the same once he has a tape full of the 2006
>>
>> That makes sense. Except for the bit about reading L&L
>> during the commericals, 'cos there weren't any...
>
> There were. I sat through them for the simple novelty of
> hearing commercials spoken in a British accent. Over here
> you never hear that unless the announcer is being
> pretentious.

Odd. There certainly weren't any when *I* watched it, and the
whole *point* of the BBC is it doesn't run advertising. So I
really don't understand what's happened here.

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258129 ] Di, 18 April 2006 01:42
pjamison2  
"Puck" <Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
news:e20oa8$i52$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> Also Sprach Torak:
>>
>>> I still think Jack Nicholson's Joker was the best one,
>>> closely followed by Cesar Romero.
>>
>> Mark Hamill is the *only* person to have played the Joker.
>> Nicholson and Romero played entertaining characters, but they
>> weren't the Joker (although Romero was closer to the 60s Joker
>> than Nicholson was to the 80s version).
>
> I agree Hamill's interpretation was awesome. He is the only person to
> succesfully mix the humorous with the truly dangerous. Everyone else has
> either played him as a mere homicidal maniac, or a campy clown. He should
> be
> somewhere in between.


I strongly agree. And there was the added bonus that we didn't have to worry
about how Hamill looked as the Joker. It just depended on what your
animators did with him.

I still say that the animated series was better than the crop of Batman
flicks going around at the time.

Incidentally, Mark Hamill did get the chance to play a homicidal-clown type
of villain before - the Prankster on the old Flash live-action TV series.
Nice, but no Joker.

--

Paul E. Jamison

"I traveled to a planet with no bilateral symmetry
and all I got was this lousy F-shirt."
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258133 ] Di, 18 April 2006 01:46
Puck  
pjamison2 wrote:
> I still say that the animated series was better than the crop of
> Batman flicks going around at the time.
>
> Incidentally, Mark Hamill did get the chance to play a
> homicidal-clown type of villain before - the Prankster on the old
> Flash live-action TV series. Nice, but no Joker.

Yeah. And Kevin Smith liked him as the Joker so much that he cast him as the
villian in the Bluntman and Chronic movie, which was largely a spoof of both
Batman and Star Wars.

Smith has always been a little weird about Batman. He named his daughter
Harley Quinn. Wish I'd thought of it first.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258143 ] Di, 18 April 2006 02:04
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach pjamison2:

<Mark Hamill's Joker in Batman:The Animated Series>

> Incidentally, Mark Hamill did get the chance to play a
> homicidal-clown type of villain before - the Prankster on
> the old Flash live-action TV series. Nice, but no Joker.

Trickster; The Prankster is a Superman villain. Apparently
Hamill reprises the role in the Justice League cartoon.

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258146 ] Di, 18 April 2006 02:03
Puck  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Odd. There certainly weren't any when *I* watched it, and the
> whole *point* of the BBC is it doesn't run advertising. So I
> really don't understand what's happened here.

I meant the announcement thingies. Whadaya call them. Bumpers? Previews? I
really don't know what they go by, but they are just commerciels for other
shows. Same difference. Has it been rerun since then? There were ads for
Footballers Wives, Doctor Who Confidential, and reruns of the 2005 Doctor
Who series. I don't know what the first two are, but I assume they are other
programs. I'd hate to think they were actually selling anybodies wives. And
a thing that said you could "Fly the TARDIS" if you went to the website.

I think that's all there was for the Doctor Who program, but there were
other things on the tape I watched. Mostly reruns of sitcoms that I cannot
for the life of me find over here. Father Ted and Absolutely Fabulous. And a
Fawlty Towers, but I already have every episode of that, so I didn't watch
it. There *were* commercials during those, so they were from another
channel. They used to show AbFab here on comedy central, but only the first
3 seasons, and it has since vanished.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258160 ] Di, 18 April 2006 05:04
Puck  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Also Sprach pjamison2:
>
> <Mark Hamill's Joker in Batman:The Animated Series>
>
>> Incidentally, Mark Hamill did get the chance to play a
>> homicidal-clown type of villain before - the Prankster on
>> the old Flash live-action TV series. Nice, but no Joker.
>
> Trickster; The Prankster is a Superman villain. Apparently
> Hamill reprises the role in the Justice League cartoon.

Yeah, that's right. Trickster is the one who wore the yellow striped pants
and was temporarily replaced by the video-game nut. Prankster wore the green
suit, and used to look like Alfred E. Neuman until he sold his soul for
better looks. And I can't believe I know any of that, or that I admit to
knowing it. Percieved Coolness Level: -.5%

--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258161 ] Di, 18 April 2006 05:10
pjamison2  
"Daibhid Ceanaideach" <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97A9AEAFD14Ddaibhid [at] 130.133.1.4...
> Also Sprach pjamison2:
>
> <Mark Hamill's Joker in Batman:The Animated Series>
>
>> Incidentally, Mark Hamill did get the chance to play a
>> homicidal-clown type of villain before - the Prankster on
>> the old Flash live-action TV series. Nice, but no Joker.
>
> Trickster; The Prankster is a Superman villain. Apparently
> Hamill reprises the role in the Justice League cartoon.
>

Thank you kindly for the correction. It's easy to get the two mixed up, for
obvious reasons.

--

Paul E. Jamison

"I traveled to a planet with no bilateral symmetry
and all I got was this lousy F-shirt."
Re: Doctor Casting [message #258192 ] Di, 18 April 2006 11:17
ben.paddon  
> I meant the announcement thingies. Whadaya call them. Bumpers? Previews? I
> really don't know what they go by, but they are just commerciels for other
> shows. Same difference. Has it been rerun since then? There were ads for
> Footballers Wives, Doctor Who Confidential, and reruns of the 2005 Doctor
> Who series. I don't know what the first two are, but I assume they are other
> programs. I'd hate to think they were actually selling anybodies wives. And
> a thing that said you could "Fly the TARDIS" if you went to the website.

It's possible those might be the recordings of UKTV Gold repeats.
Possibly. Either that or your friend has inserted advertisements purely
for novelty value. BBC doesn't show commercials, but UKTV (who tend to
snap up most of BBC's stuff for repeats) usually do. Oh, and SciFi US
edit the episodes so they can insert annoying bumpers for their own
channel.
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258201 ] Di, 18 April 2006 11:55
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Puck:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> Odd. There certainly weren't any when *I* watched it, and
>> the whole *point* of the BBC is it doesn't run
>> advertising. So I really don't understand what's happened
>> here.
>
> I meant the announcement thingies. Whadaya call them.
> Bumpers? Previews? I really don't know what they go by, but
> they are just commerciels for other shows. Same difference.
> Has it been rerun since then? There were ads for
> Footballers Wives, Doctor Who Confidential, and reruns of
> the 2005 Doctor Who series. I don't know what the first two
> are, but I assume they are other programs. I'd hate to
> think they were actually selling anybodies wives. And a
> thing that said you could "Fly the TARDIS" if you went to
> the website.

Okay, that makes sense.

> I think that's all there was for the Doctor Who program,
> but there were other things on the tape I watched. Mostly
> reruns of sitcoms that I cannot for the life of me find
> over here. Father Ted and Absolutely Fabulous. And a Fawlty
> Towers, but I already have every episode of that, so I
> didn't watch it. There *were* commercials during those, so
> they were from another channel.

UK Gold, probably.



--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258202 ] Di, 18 April 2006 11:58
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach pjamison2:

>
> "Daibhid Ceanaideach" <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote in
> message news:Xns97A9AEAFD14Ddaibhid [at] 130.133.1.4...
>> Also Sprach pjamison2:
>>
>> <Mark Hamill's Joker in Batman:The Animated Series>
>>
>>> Incidentally, Mark Hamill did get the chance to play a
>>> homicidal-clown type of villain before - the Prankster on
>>> the old Flash live-action TV series. Nice, but no Joker.
>>
>> Trickster; The Prankster is a Superman villain. Apparently
>> Hamill reprises the role in the Justice League cartoon.
>>
>
> Thank you kindly for the correction. It's easy to get the
> two mixed up, for obvious reasons.

There was a scene in a Superman comic a few years ago
featuring a couple of specially created old-school
supervillains. During an argument, one of them says the other
is the only villain whose codename got him in more trouble
than anything he actually did.

"Prankster was taken, Trickster was taken, and back then
'molest' just meant to annoy someone..."

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258287 ] Di, 18 April 2006 22:27
flobert  
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:04:27 +0200, Torak <perry_awm [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> Also Sprach Torak:
>>
>>
>>>I still think Jack Nicholson's Joker was the best one,
>>>closely followed by Cesar Romero.
>>
>>
>> Mark Hamill is the *only* person to have played the Joker.
>> Nicholson and Romero played entertaining characters, but they
>> weren't the Joker (although Romero was closer to the 60s Joker
>> than Nicholson was to the 80s version).
>
>Mark Hamill's a far better villain than hero, IMO. As a hero he's
>insipid and boring, but as a villain... Watch "Hamilton" with Peter
>Stormare and you'll see what I mean.

Have to say, I can't stand hamill. Only time I found his any good was
a villain role, however - it was when he played *ahem* "cocknocker"
:-)
Re: Doctor Casting [message #258503 ] Do, 20 April 2006 01:22
raltbos  
"Ben Paddon" <ben.paddon [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> > I meant the announcement thingies. Whadaya call them. Bumpers? Previews? I
> > really don't know what they go by, but they are just commerciels for other
> > shows. Same difference. Has it been rerun since then? There were ads for
> > Footballers Wives, Doctor Who Confidential, and reruns of the 2005 Doctor
> > Who series. I don't know what the first two are, but I assume they are other
> > programs. I'd hate to think they were actually selling anybodies wives. And
> > a thing that said you could "Fly the TARDIS" if you went to the website.
>
> It's possible those might be the recordings of UKTV Gold repeats.
> Possibly. Either that or your friend has inserted advertisements purely
> for novelty value. BBC doesn't show commercials,

Oh, no, the Beeb certainly does show commercials, only they're all for
their own bloody products and programs. Like the ones the uncredited
poster above (please don't over-snip attributions...) describes. These
are between the programs, not in the middle, of course. And they do seem
to be getting worse - they're almost up to Discovery standard, now.

Currently, they have me wondering what the great big honking problem is
with digital television. I mean, there must clearly be some glaring
disadvantage, if it sells so slowly and they want to shove it down the
viewers' throats so badly that they have to advertise it this
desparately.

Richard
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258512 ] Do, 20 April 2006 01:43
pjamison2  
"Daibhid Ceanaideach" <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97A96FABA7C83daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4...

[snip Trickster - Prankster discussion]
>
> There was a scene in a Superman comic a few years ago
> featuring a couple of specially created old-school
> supervillains. During an argument, one of them says the other
> is the only villain whose codename got him in more trouble
> than anything he actually did.
>
> "Prankster was taken, Trickster was taken, and back then
> 'molest' just meant to annoy someone..."
>

Heh. I missed that, and it was my loss, obviously.

You never can tell what the consequences will be down the road about
decisions you make today - like, say, your superhero/villain name. This is
why the character called "The Gay Ghost" will likely never be revived by DC
Comics.

--

Paul E. Jamison

"I traveled to a planet with no bilateral symmetry
and all I got was this lousy F-shirt."
Re: [I] Doctor Casting [message #258527 ] Do, 20 April 2006 04:49
Puck  
pjamison2 wrote:
> Heh. I missed that, and it was my loss, obviously.
>
> You never can tell what the consequences will be down the road about
> decisions you make today - like, say, your superhero/villain name.
> This is why the character called "The Gay Ghost" will likely never be
> revived by DC Comics.

I don't know if there is any relation, but in the DC animated universe there
was a character called the "Gray Ghost". He was based primarily on The
Shadow and the Crimson Avenger and was portrayed as a television character
who Bruce Wayne had grown up watching and been inspired by, which is why he
was so similar to some of the early heroes that Batman himself was partially
modelled after.

In order to fit in with the idea of paying homage to earlier superheroes, he
was voiced by Adam West.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
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